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		<title>By: Student loans blog</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-9464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Student loans blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 20:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think anyone should blame their parents for having to resort to student loans]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone should blame their parents for having to resort to student loans</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-9088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 09:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree 100% with Joe. 

Some other options your sister may want to consider is studying in another country.  Australian universities are about 1/3-1/2 the cost of universities in America for tuition, plus the programs are 3 years opposed to 4 years.  In Finland universities are free even for foreigners, and yes it is possible to take classes in English there.  In addition to foreign universities being cheaper, it would be a great experience.    

The job situation in America is going to be depressed for a few years to come.  Don&#039;t borrow a lot of money expecting to find a dream job when you graduate.  You may find yourself owing money you can&#039;t afford to pay back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% with Joe. </p>
<p>Some other options your sister may want to consider is studying in another country.  Australian universities are about 1/3-1/2 the cost of universities in America for tuition, plus the programs are 3 years opposed to 4 years.  In Finland universities are free even for foreigners, and yes it is possible to take classes in English there.  In addition to foreign universities being cheaper, it would be a great experience.    </p>
<p>The job situation in America is going to be depressed for a few years to come.  Don&#8217;t borrow a lot of money expecting to find a dream job when you graduate.  You may find yourself owing money you can&#8217;t afford to pay back.</p>
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		<title>By: Billiga lån</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-8678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billiga lån]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that when a person is borrowing the loan he/she knows how he is going to repay it. But the banks thinks in a different way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that when a person is borrowing the loan he/she knows how he is going to repay it. But the banks thinks in a different way.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-8488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s real easy folks.  Get government out of loans.  Schools are licking their chops at this opportunity, and are setting tuition rates at the maximum kids can borrow.  Does it really cost 30k/year per student to run the university?  Of course not.  Someone up top is getting filthy rich.  There&#039;s a lot of fat to trim.  Think of online education.  We do it everyday over the internet.  How much does that cost.  Webseminars, etc... education should be cheap.

The problem is the government is involved.  It&#039;s not an accident.  They want the debt.  Debt means obligation.  An obligation that goes away only by death.

If we wanted to fix this, we should get back to the concept where the student would have to sell the loan to the lender.  Present a business plan.  If this would happen, we wouldn&#039;t have people with 80k debt for a humanities degree.  Because a humanities degree isn&#039;t worth that on the market.  The tuition to get a humanities degree would be lower, set by what the market sets it at.  It all makes too much sense, but it isn&#039;t an accident.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s real easy folks.  Get government out of loans.  Schools are licking their chops at this opportunity, and are setting tuition rates at the maximum kids can borrow.  Does it really cost 30k/year per student to run the university?  Of course not.  Someone up top is getting filthy rich.  There&#8217;s a lot of fat to trim.  Think of online education.  We do it everyday over the internet.  How much does that cost.  Webseminars, etc&#8230; education should be cheap.</p>
<p>The problem is the government is involved.  It&#8217;s not an accident.  They want the debt.  Debt means obligation.  An obligation that goes away only by death.</p>
<p>If we wanted to fix this, we should get back to the concept where the student would have to sell the loan to the lender.  Present a business plan.  If this would happen, we wouldn&#8217;t have people with 80k debt for a humanities degree.  Because a humanities degree isn&#8217;t worth that on the market.  The tuition to get a humanities degree would be lower, set by what the market sets it at.  It all makes too much sense, but it isn&#8217;t an accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-8031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 04:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Germany college education is practically free with only a few fees. In most of Europe it is the same. In Britain after World War 2 the idea of having colleges students pay was ridiculed as ludicrous. We just happen to live in a backwards country. It makes sense to educate our youth and not burden them with an outrageous amount of student loans. It is impoverishing our nation! Obama&#039;s new education law was a no brainer because it immediately saved millions and has made education slightly more affordable. But really this is only a band aid. Furthermore we are sold the idea that ALL should go to college. When some should go to vocational school instead. Because ALL go to college education standards slip to a pathetic lows. I went to two private schools with hard won scholarships but still needed loans to cover the rest. And the academic side of the education was horribly pathetic! And when I taught in the Public Schools students in Middle School could barely Read!!!! I can&#039;t stand this. We should all be ashamed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Germany college education is practically free with only a few fees. In most of Europe it is the same. In Britain after World War 2 the idea of having colleges students pay was ridiculed as ludicrous. We just happen to live in a backwards country. It makes sense to educate our youth and not burden them with an outrageous amount of student loans. It is impoverishing our nation! Obama&#8217;s new education law was a no brainer because it immediately saved millions and has made education slightly more affordable. But really this is only a band aid. Furthermore we are sold the idea that ALL should go to college. When some should go to vocational school instead. Because ALL go to college education standards slip to a pathetic lows. I went to two private schools with hard won scholarships but still needed loans to cover the rest. And the academic side of the education was horribly pathetic! And when I taught in the Public Schools students in Middle School could barely Read!!!! I can&#8217;t stand this. We should all be ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: BC in Boston</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-7214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BC in Boston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry Stefan, but not everyone&#039;s education was handed to them on a silver platter by their relatives. my parents worked their asses off to pay for their own education 40 years ago, and my siblings and I are now doing the same. money doesn&#039;t grow on trees, whether you&#039;re investing beforehand, or paying back afterward.

it is views like this that perpetuate the problem - a college education is becoming increasingly out of reach for the lower class, thus farther spreading the gap between the classes. 

i went to a fairly low-priced state university, and now work at a similar one. i can tell you honestly that the tuition is raised because of ridiculously inflated salaries and poor departmental budgeting. our university is throwing money around left and right for no reason, and instead of cracking down on those responsible, they raised the student fees last year to almost double the previous amount. rob the poor to feed the inept, irresponsible rich.

between university administration and lending companies, everybody is equally greedy and irresponsible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry Stefan, but not everyone&#8217;s education was handed to them on a silver platter by their relatives. my parents worked their asses off to pay for their own education 40 years ago, and my siblings and I are now doing the same. money doesn&#8217;t grow on trees, whether you&#8217;re investing beforehand, or paying back afterward.</p>
<p>it is views like this that perpetuate the problem &#8211; a college education is becoming increasingly out of reach for the lower class, thus farther spreading the gap between the classes. </p>
<p>i went to a fairly low-priced state university, and now work at a similar one. i can tell you honestly that the tuition is raised because of ridiculously inflated salaries and poor departmental budgeting. our university is throwing money around left and right for no reason, and instead of cracking down on those responsible, they raised the student fees last year to almost double the previous amount. rob the poor to feed the inept, irresponsible rich.</p>
<p>between university administration and lending companies, everybody is equally greedy and irresponsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Snabba Laan</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-5937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snabba Laan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why are the banks so strict when it comes to paying loans? When one is borrowing the loan he/she knows how he is going to repay it. After the entire bank once it agrees to give out loan don&#039;t see why they should be harsh when claiming it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the banks so strict when it comes to paying loans? When one is borrowing the loan he/she knows how he is going to repay it. After the entire bank once it agrees to give out loan don&#8217;t see why they should be harsh when claiming it!</p>
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		<title>By: lily</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-5845</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Stefan,
your parents paid half your tuition. I don&#039;t care if they had to scrim and save, you having those parents is an advantage many of us don&#039;t have and ultimately that was a handout. Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stefan,<br />
your parents paid half your tuition. I don&#8217;t care if they had to scrim and save, you having those parents is an advantage many of us don&#8217;t have and ultimately that was a handout. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://blog-aauw.org/2010/03/12/student-loan-crisis-an-american-reality/#comment-5842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Response:

Now that more and more K-12 schools are losing funding and shutting down, is it safe to assume there will be less high school graduates, thus less students going to college in the future?

With this in mind, colleges are going to shrink in attendance, which means one of two things will happen:

1. College tuition will increase as attendance decreases to subsidize their continuing growing costs.

2. College tuition will shrink as colleges tighten budgets, cut out excess spending and fight to attract more students with lower tuition.

I think the possibility for going to college is still very strong in this country.  There are problems I see that you haven&#039;t addressed:

1. How much did your parents save to pay for you and your sister&#039;s tuition?  My parents are blue collar, without college educations and worked very hard to save for mine and my brother&#039;s tuition.  By the time we went off to college, Mom and Dad had saved enough to pay for half our tuition at a very expensive school.  These days, it seems people are living way beyond their means and surviving pay check to pay check instead of thinking about the future.

2. How well did you perform in high school?  My brother and I went to a private liberal arts college and tuition over the 6 years the two of us were there went from $26K/yr - $32K/yr.  Him and I worked very hard in high school for good grades and as a result the college gave us money to attend.

3.  How much money did you and your sister make yourselves to pay for your tuition?  My brother and I both had jobs in high school and saved for our tuition.  Not only did we work through high school to pay for our high education, but we had part-time jobs on campus to help cut costs and in the summer we worked very hard full time to help pay for tuition.  One summer, I worked 3 jobs at a total of 72 hours a week so I could have enough money to pay for my senior year.

Now, this doesn&#039;t mean we didn&#039;t have loans.  My brother, who graduated high school with honors, received much more money in grants from our college than I did.  He managed to graduate with about $10K of student loan debt out of the $120K tuition.  I on the other walked away with $17.5K in student loan debt out of my $104K tuition.  My parents told us at 13 years old that they would pay for half of our tuition.  The rest was up to us to come up with.  We both effectively paid for half our tuition out of our own pockets with some minor student loans to help us out.

My point is this: Students loans should be your last resort for paying for college.  Your parents had 18+ years to plan for you and your sister&#039;s tuition costs.  If they didn&#039;t save for you, that&#039;s their fault.  If you graduated with mediocre high school grades and can&#039;t get scholarships or grants, I don&#039;t think you should deserve to live the &quot;college dream&quot; or get the &quot;college experience&quot; because you didn&#039;t strive for a good education before getting to college.  Last, if you and your sister didn&#039;t save yourselves, shame on you.  This isn&#039;t a country of hand outs, it&#039;s a country built on hard work.  It&#039;s not called Mediocre Education, it&#039;s called Higher Education.  It&#039;s for the elite who strive for greatness.

Now, maybe you and your family did everything I just described.  You didn&#039;t explain at all the work you did in your little article so I can only guess and throw these things out there.  Although, your article really reads as if a young person with a sense of entitlement to higher education is complaining about borrowing money.  Let me be very clear.  You are not entitled to Higher Education.  You have to earn it.  If this is not the case and you and your family did everything they could before seeking out student loans, then I will insert my foot into my mouth.

I&#039;m sorry for your sister&#039;s tuition troubles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Response:</p>
<p>Now that more and more K-12 schools are losing funding and shutting down, is it safe to assume there will be less high school graduates, thus less students going to college in the future?</p>
<p>With this in mind, colleges are going to shrink in attendance, which means one of two things will happen:</p>
<p>1. College tuition will increase as attendance decreases to subsidize their continuing growing costs.</p>
<p>2. College tuition will shrink as colleges tighten budgets, cut out excess spending and fight to attract more students with lower tuition.</p>
<p>I think the possibility for going to college is still very strong in this country.  There are problems I see that you haven&#8217;t addressed:</p>
<p>1. How much did your parents save to pay for you and your sister&#8217;s tuition?  My parents are blue collar, without college educations and worked very hard to save for mine and my brother&#8217;s tuition.  By the time we went off to college, Mom and Dad had saved enough to pay for half our tuition at a very expensive school.  These days, it seems people are living way beyond their means and surviving pay check to pay check instead of thinking about the future.</p>
<p>2. How well did you perform in high school?  My brother and I went to a private liberal arts college and tuition over the 6 years the two of us were there went from $26K/yr &#8211; $32K/yr.  Him and I worked very hard in high school for good grades and as a result the college gave us money to attend.</p>
<p>3.  How much money did you and your sister make yourselves to pay for your tuition?  My brother and I both had jobs in high school and saved for our tuition.  Not only did we work through high school to pay for our high education, but we had part-time jobs on campus to help cut costs and in the summer we worked very hard full time to help pay for tuition.  One summer, I worked 3 jobs at a total of 72 hours a week so I could have enough money to pay for my senior year.</p>
<p>Now, this doesn&#8217;t mean we didn&#8217;t have loans.  My brother, who graduated high school with honors, received much more money in grants from our college than I did.  He managed to graduate with about $10K of student loan debt out of the $120K tuition.  I on the other walked away with $17.5K in student loan debt out of my $104K tuition.  My parents told us at 13 years old that they would pay for half of our tuition.  The rest was up to us to come up with.  We both effectively paid for half our tuition out of our own pockets with some minor student loans to help us out.</p>
<p>My point is this: Students loans should be your last resort for paying for college.  Your parents had 18+ years to plan for you and your sister&#8217;s tuition costs.  If they didn&#8217;t save for you, that&#8217;s their fault.  If you graduated with mediocre high school grades and can&#8217;t get scholarships or grants, I don&#8217;t think you should deserve to live the &#8220;college dream&#8221; or get the &#8220;college experience&#8221; because you didn&#8217;t strive for a good education before getting to college.  Last, if you and your sister didn&#8217;t save yourselves, shame on you.  This isn&#8217;t a country of hand outs, it&#8217;s a country built on hard work.  It&#8217;s not called Mediocre Education, it&#8217;s called Higher Education.  It&#8217;s for the elite who strive for greatness.</p>
<p>Now, maybe you and your family did everything I just described.  You didn&#8217;t explain at all the work you did in your little article so I can only guess and throw these things out there.  Although, your article really reads as if a young person with a sense of entitlement to higher education is complaining about borrowing money.  Let me be very clear.  You are not entitled to Higher Education.  You have to earn it.  If this is not the case and you and your family did everything they could before seeking out student loans, then I will insert my foot into my mouth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry for your sister&#8217;s tuition troubles.</p>
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